![]() They were like, We’re going to do this by 1976. When they launched the War on Poverty in 1964, the Johnson administration set a deadline. We can, as a country, put an end to all this scarcity and deprivation in our midst. I want to be part of the movement that’s growing around the country not to treat it but to cure it, not to reduce it but to abolish it. Could you share with us your broader mission, your big-picture objectives, and how your new book, Poverty, by America, supports that mission? ![]() All of these accolades are nice, I’m sure, but I don’t think it’s why you wrote these books. You won a MacArthur “genius grant.” You’re now a professor of sociology at Princeton, where you run the Eviction Lab. Your last book, Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City, won a Pulitzer Prize. Rufus Griscom: You’ve had an extraordinary journey. Sign up for The Next Big Idea newsletter here. ![]() ![]() In their conversation, Desmond explains what it’s like to be poor in America, how the wealthy benefit from inequality, and what we need to do, as individuals and at the political level, to end poverty once and for all. On the most recent episode of The Next Big Idea, host Rufus Griscom sat down with Matthew Desmond-Princeton sociologist, MacArthur “genius grant” recipient, and Pulitzer Prize–winning author-to discuss his new book, Poverty, by America. ![]()
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